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iceman2g
What does it take to get banned from the cubecart forum?
booker
biggrin.gif Good question
twisted
You planning on being naughty, ice?
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shop.lightspeed.net.au
Not referring to anyone in particular are we now??? whistling.gif
iceman2g
Well we as a community can only take so much.
afksky
Yes but i have to say some of it is funny.... better then the movies anyways
cube.carter
"better than the movies"

and a hell of a lot cheaper smile.gif

the point about eye damage with incorrect word placement and incorrect spelling was very valid

but would that be discrimination ???
OskMedia
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Pardon__Me
as the song says "can I kick him? "
OskMedia
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cube.carter
its means you POST alot for someone who claimed to not be bothered about this forum or posting here
OskMedia
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booker
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when my na,e is in the mix i find things differently


Even when nobody has mentioned your name?

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I thought we made anagreement ice, you didn't discriminate against me i would return the favor, im not posting "I think all teenage fathers should be bannerd from cube cart forum for im proper care of thier children" --------Josh

lets be fair now



So far on this thread, you are the only person who has named anybody, and that was quite distasteful.
iceman2g
Hey kiddo not once did I mention any names. Again you do not know a damn thing about me or the life and live. Add to that i'm not some teenage kid like yourself.

I can continue but wont bother as common sense and the good advice that some seek to offer seem to elude you.
afksky
one vote for yes
cube.carter
well make that two for yes - we all wear belts and there is no need to play below
Al
As you all know I struggle to find the time to browse the forums and just want it to be a friendly helpful place where everybody gets along. I know that the introduction of allowing people to promote and supply 3rd Party services has put a darker cloud over this place and it's sad really that this may be the case for some.

I just hope it doesn't reflect too badly on the core products it's self. If that is the case some serious reconsiderations may have to be made and changes of policy.

It would be good to have a "meeting" of some kind with some of the key players here to get my/your head(s) around this developing culture and where its members thinks it's all going.
OskMedia
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afksky
lets see some php osk?

i have posted a ton of php mods wheres yours????
qdpie.com
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I just hope it doesn't reflect too badly on the core products it's self. If that is the case some serious reconsiderations may have to be made and changes of policy


This is why I went on my last rant about people talking trash about others, whether it be in the forums or on a web site that sells cube cart type products. If you promote your site here and bash anyone or put down someone else's work on your site, you may as well be doing it here.

I remember a time when there were only a few people doing work to sell for cube cart. It was a friendlier time. People would refer someone to a mod that was already created or offer to alter it if the mod owner was unwilling. Now it has become a competitive feeding ground. I use to enjoy coming to the forums and try to help people. Now when I do and I check what others are doing, I end up seeing my name being trashed. Whether you name me or not, if you compare a mod that isn't made by anyone else but me, you are naming me. Same goes for others. That is why I said that kind of marketing strategy should be unacceptable. If you want this to become a nasty, competitive environment, then by all means allow that type of behavior.

I firmly agree that competition makes things get better, but nasty competition sucks ass! If you are here to help cube cart and it's users, you shouldn't do or say things to make others look bad, leave that to the consumer. If I have started posts here directed at anyone else, I did it because I felt like I was being attacked, and I wanted everyone to see that this is a problem, and something needs to be done.

My opinion. If you want to make yourself better and get more sales by making others look bad, you should be banned from this project. Of course there is nothing that can keep you from continuing your work, but something should be done to keep you from promoting your work here. I feel any site that sells cube cart mods is a direct associate to cube cart and should conform to the forum standards and rules. As a few others, I too am doing my mods and support as a full time job. But my main objective is helping people get the best cart that they can, even if it means giving someone else credit or work. I prefer referring people to a mod that has already been done to doing it myself. That is what I used to like about this forum and cube cart. There used to be a sort of comradery, now it's becoming cut throat.
cube.carter
QUOTE (qdpie.com @ Jan 18 2005, 09:33 PM)
I feel any site that sells cube cart mods is a direct associate to cube cart and should conform to the forum standards and rules...

...my main objective is helping people get the best cart that they can, even if it means giving someone else credit or work.

definately especially when some people who buy mods and designs never actually buy a license - it is only fair that "associates" should adhere very strictly to the forum rules!!

well said...
Al
Hi qdpie,

I agree. The key here is what to do about this as the philosophy behind CubeCart?A product everybody can benefit from? That seems like a pretty unselfish viral business model if you ask me.

Maybe CubeCart should become 100% open source like GNU or GPL... but you, like I survive from it hence the current system *works*?

I'm open to suggestions and proposals even.
cube.carter
i think that if someone purchases a mod a percentage should be donated to the cube cart project (aka: brooky) as how many people have modded there stores out for $100's and designs for similar amounts yet have never purchased a license

who is winning then?????

mines still in testing locally - i will get a license soon i promise smile.gif smile.gif

ALSO brooky I like the current system - it is great
if only television was the same (voluntary license fee) - i think sky should pay that for me if i subscribe
jbdancer
QUOTE (mstar @ Jan 18 2005, 09:50 PM)
i think that if someone purchases a mod a percentage should be donated to the cube cart project

Don't kill me but i think this would be nice if everyone does it
qdpie.com
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i think that if someone purchases a mod a percentage should be donated to the cube cart project


This is something that is totally up to Brooky and really has nothing to do with the current problem. The problem is about respecting others. If you can't play nice, then you shouldn't be allowed to play.
afksky
i agree
Al
I'm not bothered about a percentage of mod sales. License keys don't make mega bucks but allow me the odd beer. Lets just allow everyone to get on some how.

Also it would be tricky to setup and enforce. smile.gif

I need to sleep on this... Keep suggestions coming although #1 priority is CubeCart 3 at the moment as far as I'm concerned. However I completely understand how CC3 is not even a consideration for you guys at the mo.
jbdancer
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The problem is about respecting others. If you can't play nice, then you shouldn't be allowed to play.
i agree
OskMedia
agree +1
booker
QUOTE (brooky @ Jan 19 2005, 06:57 AM)
I'm not bothered about a percentage of mod sales. License keys don't make mega bucks but allow me the odd beer. Lets just allow everyone to get on some how.

Also it would be tricky to setup and enforce. smile.gif

I need to sleep on this... Keep suggestions coming although #1 priority is CubeCart 3 at the moment as far as I'm concerned. However I completely understand how CC3 is not even a consideration for you guys at the mo.

Actually - not so tricky...

I am getting close to completing a cubecart shop (with the help of jbdancer on a mod he is currently working on) that would allow something like this.

Anybody who sells mods for cubecart would have to sign up to this "Mod Shop" and they would become vendors. Mods would only be sold through this shop and could not be advertised anywhere else through these forums. ie- all advertised mods would be directed to the Mod Shop. The administrator of the Mod Shop could take a percentage cut from all sales (or nothing, if you don't want to) and when a customer buys the mods, everything is in a single cart rather than buying several mods from several different shops.

The only difficult part would be customer service. Each modder would still have to provide their own customer service for installation mod support, etc. I guess the easiest way would be to send an e-mail to the modder as soon as a product is purchased. Likewise, a readme file should be included with all mods, listing the contacts for the mod.

Anyway, just an idea...

But that still doesn't mean people will play fair. It would be up to the Mod Shop administrator whether the mod remains active or not, but that could be quite a bit of work for the administrator as well...
saztar
brooky.. isnt you agreement that a person *should* not mod their store if they have not paid for the cc lic?

i would be VERY willing to help you monitor this. I am trying to promote getting the lic with mods in my store.. and have already had a few people talking about doing that.. and intend on paying for these lic's once i receive the payments for the modded store... as you had agreed to even move their forums stats bars to red.. and get the lic key under their account for me.

I think that maybe you could even give us modders a $10 or so brake for 'selling' the idea on people that we deal with.. i mean. i know too many stores that are just trying to 'put it off' or whatever... and also letting them make one payment and get everything would help them out too.. and then i would just have to come and pay you here..

Tony~!
saztar
oh yeah.. if you have a meeting... i am in.. just tell me when and how to get on.

Tony~!
Al
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brooky.. isnt you agreement that a person *should* not mod their store if they have not paid for the cc lic?


Anyone can mod a store with out a license key. But you cannot distribute modified versions of CubeCart. Yor are not supposed to even redistribute mods... however the license agreement needs rewording there...

You are permitted to:

* use the Software on unlimited computer systems/platforms
* copy the Software for archival purposes, provided any copy must contain all of the original Software's proprietary notices
* customise the software's design and operation to suit the internal needs of your web site. You may not distribute these modifications/changes with out prior consent from brooky.com
* create applications which interface with the operation of the Software provided said application is an original work.
* use CubeCart for the sale of adult material including pornography, etc. as long as the products on offer conform to local laws/regulations.


You are NOT permitted to:

* permit other individuals to use the Software except under the terms listed herein
* reverse engineer, disassemble, or create derivative works based on the Software for distribution or usage outside your web site excluding those applications described above.
* The CubeCart download packages must not be distributed or hosted anywhere except cubecart.com without written consent from brooky.com.
* use the Software in such as way as to condone or encourage terrorism, promote or provide pirated software, or any other form of illegal or damaging activity.
* modify and/or remove any copyright notices or labels on the Software on each page and in the header/footer and output html of each source file. This includes "[powered by CubeCart]" in the browser title and "Powered by CubeCart İbrooky.com" page footer. This may only be done if a license key has been purchased! [ more info ]
* host or distribute the download software packages without written permission from brooky.com
* distribute or modify proprietary graphics, HTML, or CSS packaged with the Software for use in other Software applications or web sites without written permission from brooky.com
jbdancer
QUOTE (booker @ Jan 19 2005, 02:53 AM)
I am getting close to completing a cubecart shop (with the help of jbdancer on a mod he is currently working on) that would allow something like this.

i'm done (toke me 1,5 day smile.gif )
stijnj
how the hell did I miss this thread? cool.gif

Guess I was / am tired of discussions concerning mods.
My advice : play fair. Maybe I'm the last one who actually does not want to make a living out of cubecart.I joined for fun,helped members for fun,added mods for free.The only reason I have my modstore is to keep my misses calm and buy her this and that from the money I make.I find my competition in my "real life" my bakery and my wifes' store, maybe that is why I don't care about competition at Cubecart.
Be aware : there is more in life than a php-code competition smile.gif
OskMedia
very true statement, i think its the persons job to decide what mod to buy from wherever. Therss not to much compeition tongue.gif
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