Androidicus Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 Using latest version of V6 and Minimialiser skin. As a newcomer to CubeCart - looking to save some "digging time" - need to change way product line prices in basket are displayed. Product prices displayed elsewhere as Inclusive of VAT - but in basket are shown as Ex vat (as is the shipping charge). Simply need to change the price display of line prices & shipping to be Inclusive of VAT. The VAT line needs to stay as it is. I am a commercial user of other (paid) e-commerce platforms i.e. CS-Cart and am singularly impressed with CC! I'm Sure I played with earlier versions some time ago but now looking at it as a serious contender for some projects... Any help much appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombiesbyte Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 Hi Androidicus I'm also recently a new member to CC too. I'm not currently VAT registered and I'm not sure if I can help much but thought I'd reply anyway as I had a couple of questions regarding your query/issue. 1. I presume that a checkout by law has to have a VAT calculation shown at this point which is why it has been done this way (I may be wrong)? 2. Shipping fees in some cases are VAT free/exempt such as Royal Mail so I imagine that there are some VAT settings somewhere to control this, there may be an option of showing how VAT is displayed upon calculation at basket stage. 3. Is the checkout showing the right information (the way you want it to be shown or is it both the basket and checkout)? If it's something that isn't available as a setting in the admin then I imagine it should be fairly easy to amend on the page template but it may help to know about the 3 questions above before you go down that route. I'm still developing the shop and haven't got to working with the basket and checkout stages just yet but I'll certainly try and help if you need it. I noticed the date you posted so not sure if this is a redundant question now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Androidicus Posted September 6, 2016 Author Share Posted September 6, 2016 Hi zombiesbyte Apologies - not often here as way too much going on... I dipped my toe into CC waters as already use commercial (i.e. paid for!) e-commerce systems but really needed a relatively fast fix for a start-up who have £0 to invest right now... To be honest, I do really need to get to the bottom of this asap but have kind of gone into scattergun mode across a number of projects all requiring equal attention ha ha! I will have to roll my sleeves up and simply find the right places to get the price display correct in basket & checkout - I am a little disappointed that such an important (imho) issue has only received one response (your kind self) and not elicited any feedback from the devs. For the UK market - any e-commerce offering paid or open source simply must get the VAT situation right. No "Joe Public" consumer either wants or should see item line prices ex-vat with a global single VAT line at the sub-total stage. I'm actually really impressed with Cube Cart and the fact that it is an Open Source offering on home soil is wonderful... just need to get this price display sorted! Quote Valued Added Tax (VAT) (i) Price indications to consumers 2.2.9 All price indications you give to consumers, by whatever means, should include VAT. This total price must be displayed prominently so that consumers can see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayz1 Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 On the admin>products>pricing tab you can set the products tax status e.g you can show prices excluding or including VAT. You will ned to choose a suitable tax class as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Butter Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 56 minutes ago, Androidicus said: I am a little disappointed that such an important (imho) issue has only received one response (your kind self) and not elicited any feedback from the devs. I don't have any knowledge about VAT and can't help. But this forum is NOT run by the CC staff, but by volunteers. If you want to get help from the developers you need to contact the Support page https://www.cubecart.com/technical-support Also please take a look at the CC demo store to see how VAT is handled there. If the Stock demo store also treats VAT in the way you don't want it to - post your request on GitHub - https://forums.cubecart.com/forum/67-report-an-issue/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Androidicus Posted September 6, 2016 Author Share Posted September 6, 2016 Ok - so I had a bit of a moan and... @zombiesbyte yes, I did post a response to the old 2015 question in the Technical Support forum - it was exactly the issue I needed answering and was surprised that it had no response in 12 months - you are 100% right - keep in one thread - and I believed that this section was probably most appropriate. @Dirty Butter absolutely understand that this forum is run by volunteers - but Al Brookbanks (staff?) certainly seems to respond to a fair few questions around the forum... and I strongly believe that the question of price display from store front to checkout is an important one. 1 hour ago, Dirty Butter said: Also please take a look at the CC demo store to see how VAT is handled there. I have looked at the demo and it does exactly what I said - price on the front end is including VAT but the price in "basket" and "checkout" is displayed ex-VAT with the VAT line shown at the sub-total line. There is probably a very easy fix to this - I am just not familiar yet with the system and was looking for the experience of others who may have achieved the necessary modification. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Butter Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 OK, since the demo store basket also displays VAT separately, please request on GitHub for an option to always show it included. You can put a link to this thread in your request. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Androidicus Posted September 6, 2016 Author Share Posted September 6, 2016 4 minutes ago, Dirty Butter said: OK, since the demo store basket also displays VAT separately, please request on GitHub for an option to always show it included. You can put a link to this thread in your request. Thank you @Dirty ButterI will do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayz1 Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 I think you can do what you want in admin. You just need to set up your tax settings correctly. One of my stores doesn't show the VAT at checkout just the price including VAT. You need to look at Tax Classes and rules. My settings are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Butter Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 If @ayz1 gets it to work, then it's likely not a GitHub issue. Hopefully you can use his suggestion to get it to work the way you want. If not, you might want to contact @havenswift-hosting. He's around here a good bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Androidicus Posted September 6, 2016 Author Share Posted September 6, 2016 @ayz1thanks for that - I will check later but sure I'd been through every permutation! I never eliminate my own fallibility so will go through it with a fine tooth comb and your screenshots... much appreciated! @Dirty Butterfor sure - once I've done ^^^ hopefully there'll be a result - thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Androidicus Posted September 7, 2016 Author Share Posted September 7, 2016 UPDATE: So, thank you for the heads up @ayz1 - by leaving the "status" checkbox unchecked and the rest exactly as per the screenshots, the price is indeed shown as the inclusive of vat price. @Dirty Butter as you say, with regard to getting the prices to display throughout as the full retail price inclusive of vat this is achievable using the the above configuration and therefore not specifically a GitHub issue. I do believe that there are circumstances that will call for a slightly more complex treatment of VAT. For example, a business that is VAT registered can issue "simplified" vat invoices for small value transactions i.e. under £250. Over this transaction value and a "full" VAT invoice must be issued. So onlinewidgetsales DOT com is VAT registered and the majority of its online sales are "retail" and under £250 including vat then a simplified VAT invoice showing all prices inclusive of vat with the VAT registration number and VAT element of the sale clearly stated is all that is required. If the majority of customers are non-vat registered and unable to claim vat back, then this will be clear and simple for them. VAT registered customers will still be able to use these invoices to account for VAT on their VAT returns. Any sales in excess of £250 will require a more detailed approach: Quote 2.1 Proper VAT invoices must be issued for supplies to VAT-registered businesses. A full VAT invoice should include a unique identifying number; the supplier’s name, address and VAT number; the customer’s name and address; the invoice date; the tax point (if this is different from the invoice date); the type of supply (such as sale or rent); a description of and the amount of goods or services supplied; unit price; any cash discount rate; the VAT rate; the total excluding VAT; the VAT amount and the total payable. VAT invoice numbers must be sequential, with no unexplained gaps. Duplicate invoices must be clearly marked. If you issue other documents (eg pro-forma invoices), which show the same details, they must clearly state ‘Not a VAT invoice’. 2.2 If you make retail sales under £250 (including VAT), you can issue customers with a ‘less detailed’ VAT invoice. This must show your name; address; VAT number; the date of supply; a description of the supplies; the amount (including VAT) and the VAT rate charged. Source: http://www.taxdonut.co.uk/tax/vat/vat-problems/common-vat-problems This probably seems rather pedantic but then VAT legislation is rather pedantic! When I get the time to "lift the bonnet" properly I will attempt to address this - if I have any success i will post back here. Thanks to all for your input / feedback! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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