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I don't know whether you can hack into the code on the forum software, but assuming they can only paste spam if logged in, I'd be inclined to automatically log someone out after two hours and have a non automatic captcha for both new registrations and for folks wanting to log back in. As it a forum and not a sales venue, having a manual captcha shouldn't deter people that want to use the forums for legitimate purposes. Nothing is ideal for sure, but only a numpty would respond to a spam advert, so them spamming forums, blogs and groups is a pointless exercise anyway.

Okay - was unable to get onto the forums again this morning. Cloudfare was just giving the continuous turning circle. Once again, I could only get access my deleting CubeCart cookies, This was the code I managed to capture from the developer console in the browser. Hope it helps analyse the problem. Error with Permissions-Policy header: Origin trial controlled feature not enabled: 'browsing-topics'. Error with Permissions-Policy header: Origin trial controlled feature not enabled: 'interest-cohort'. GET https://forums.cubecart.com/ 403 (Forbidden) (anonymous) @ /cdn-cgi/challenge-p…=814d7bad7a9f63ec:1 index.php?app=core&module=system&controller=serviceworker&v=3bfd6ef0f41694618274&type=front&loggedIn=false:279 SyntaxError: Unexpected token '<', "<!DOCTYPE "... is not valid JSON index.php?app=core&module=system&controller=serviceworker&v=3bfd6ef0f41694618274&type=front&loggedIn=false:288 SyntaxError: Unexpected token '<', "<!DOCTYPE "... is not valid JSON 5The FetchEvent for "<URL>" resulted in a network error response: an object that was not a Response was passed to respondWith(). v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 POST https://forums.cubecart.com/cdn-cgi/challenge-platform/h/g/flow/ov1/647593815:1697091661:jV91jQBnpq3J5WSJS8qkEdosc3NTYe6SVjDnZtoF9vU/814d7c97496d63ec/317181c974e7b48 net::ERR_FAILED fy.<computed> @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 setTimeout (async) aMGKb @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 (anonymous) @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 gk @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 gh @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 (anonymous) @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 sCcqa @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 (anonymous) @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 setTimeout (async) nfTXz @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 e @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 gm @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 (anonymous) @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 (anonymous) @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 index.php?app=core&module=system&controller=serviceworker&v=3bfd6ef0f41694618274&type=front&loggedIn=false:279 SyntaxError: Unexpected token '<', "<!DOCTYPE "... is not valid JSON index.php?app=core&module=system&controller=serviceworker&v=3bfd6ef0f41694618274&type=front&loggedIn=false:288 SyntaxError: Unexpected token '<', "<!DOCTYPE "... is not valid JSON v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 POST https://forums.cubecart.com/cdn-cgi/challenge-platform/h/g/flow/ov1/647593815:1697091661:jV91jQBnpq3J5WSJS8qkEdosc3NTYe6SVjDnZtoF9vU/814d7c97496d63ec/317181c974e7b48 net::ERR_FAILED fy.<computed> @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 (anonymous) @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 setTimeout (async) h @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 i.<computed> @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 XMLHttpRequest.send (async) fy.<computed> @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 setTimeout (async) aMGKb @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 (anonymous) @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 gk @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 gh @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 (anonymous) @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 sCcqa @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 (anonymous) @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 setTimeout (async) nfTXz @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 e @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 gm @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 (anonymous) @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 (anonymous) @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 index.php?app=core&module=system&controller=serviceworker&v=3bfd6ef0f41694618274&type=front&loggedIn=false:279 SyntaxError: Unexpected token '<', "<!DOCTYPE "... is not valid JSON index.php?app=core&module=system&controller=serviceworker&v=3bfd6ef0f41694618274&type=front&loggedIn=false:288 SyntaxError: Unexpected token '<', "<!DOCTYPE "... is not valid JSON v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 POST https://forums.cubecart.com/cdn-cgi/challenge-platform/h/g/flow/ov1/647593815:1697091661:jV91jQBnpq3J5WSJS8qkEdosc3NTYe6SVjDnZtoF9vU/814d7c97496d63ec/317181c974e7b48 net::ERR_FAILED fy.<computed> @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 (anonymous) @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 setTimeout (async) h @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 i.<computed> @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 XMLHttpRequest.send (async) fy.<computed> @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 (anonymous) @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 setTimeout (async) h @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 i.<computed> @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 XMLHttpRequest.send (async) fy.<computed> @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 setTimeout (async) aMGKb @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 (anonymous) @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 gk @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 gh @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 (anonymous) @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 sCcqa @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 (anonymous) @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 setTimeout (async) nfTXz @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 e @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 gm @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 (anonymous) @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 (anonymous) @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 index.php?app=core&module=system&controller=serviceworker&v=3bfd6ef0f41694618274&type=front&loggedIn=false:279 SyntaxError: Unexpected token '<', "<!DOCTYPE "... is not valid JSON index.php?app=core&module=system&controller=serviceworker&v=3bfd6ef0f41694618274&type=front&loggedIn=false:288 SyntaxError: Unexpected token '<', "<!DOCTYPE "... is not valid JSON v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 POST https://forums.cubecart.com/cdn-cgi/challenge-platform/h/g/flow/ov1/647593815:1697091661:jV91jQBnpq3J5WSJS8qkEdosc3NTYe6SVjDnZtoF9vU/814d7c97496d63ec/317181c974e7b48 net::ERR_FAILED fy.<computed> @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 (anonymous) @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 setTimeout (async) h @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 i.<computed> @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 XMLHttpRequest.send (async) fy.<computed> @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 (anonymous) @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 setTimeout (async) h @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 i.<computed> @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 XMLHttpRequest.send (async) fy.<computed> @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 (anonymous) @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 setTimeout (async) h @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 i.<computed> @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 XMLHttpRequest.send (async) fy.<computed> @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 setTimeout (async) aMGKb @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 (anonymous) @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 gk @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 gh @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 (anonymous) @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 sCcqa @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 (anonymous) @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 setTimeout (async) nfTXz @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 e @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 gm @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 (anonymous) @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 (anonymous) @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 index.php?app=core&module=system&controller=serviceworker&v=3bfd6ef0f41694618274&type=front&loggedIn=false:279 SyntaxError: Unexpected token '<', "<!DOCTYPE "... is not valid JSON index.php?app=core&module=system&controller=serviceworker&v=3bfd6ef0f41694618274&type=front&loggedIn=false:288 SyntaxError: Unexpected token '<', "<!DOCTYPE "... is not valid JSON v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 POST https://forums.cubecart.com/cdn-cgi/challenge-platform/h/g/flow/ov1/647593815:1697091661:jV91jQBnpq3J5WSJS8qkEdosc3NTYe6SVjDnZtoF9vU/814d7c97496d63ec/317181c974e7b48 net::ERR_FAILED

Not as silly as it sounds, but I wonder what anti spam software the other forums out there are using? There are a lot of captcha devices out there, some much better than others at reducing the crud.

Definitely no extensions or ad blockers on either of my main browsers. They bog standard as downloaded. Annoyingly enough, Cloudflare not even kicking in at the moment and it allowing me to just go straight into the forums, even when the browser has been closed down. I will have a look at the developer console in the browser when it does it again though and see what it shows...

Trouble is, there something not quite right with it, if it not allowing legitimate users to get through. Fifteen minutes later the Cloudflare circle was still spinning with no update, even browser refresh did nothing. Not familiar with Cloudflare operation, but would have expected an access or deny within 30 seconds. It has only ever once asked me to validate I'm human, but doesn't seem to store that info?

I would probably look at some sort of graphics captcha on a landing page, for anyone to be able to access the forums. If they pass, then take them to the main forum page. Problem at the moment, is if people cannot access the forums then they will probably just seek out another cart solution.

I'm guessing it not just me, but are other people experiencing problems accessing the CubeCart forums? I get a Cloudfire window that just shows a circling box, that just keeps circling and the forum access just never happens. Only way I have found to resolve this, is to go into my browser and delete the specific cookies for the CubeCart site to be able to access the forums, which is a bit of a pain. Am running Windows 10 and this happens with both Microsoft Edge and Google Chrome.

If someone wants to achieve this manually, you are looking at changing file element.product.tabs.php in the skin templates around line 70 and removing the following section of code. {if $PRODUCT.product_weight > 0} <tr> <td>{$LANG.common.weight}</td> <td>{$PRODUCT.product_weight}{$CONFIG.product_weight_unit|lower}</td> </tr> {/if}

Is there somewhere within admin to turn off the weight display on the product page? My 'all in one shipping' is based on product weight, including packaging, which is noticeably heavier than the actual item, so need to hide it on the product pages. The less graceful alternative is to find the specification section within the skins and delete it. Thanks

Another popular open source cart that brought v4 out recently had also taken PayPal Std out (and a few other things), has found a considerable number of its members have now reverted back to using the earlier v3, which also has a separate branch on Github, where developers have now upgraded it so it will run on PHP 8. Say what you will, but people like to have choices. Interestingly enough, whilst using another cart solution last week and going out to PayPal using Std PayPal on PayPal live site, that also brought up the option to pay later? That certainly not something that has ever shown up on there before. I will contact PayPal myself, to ask why they asking people to agree to an undisclosed partnership 'agreement' when signing up to PayPal Commerce (on any platform), as that just not right. Absolutely no mention of rates, extra charges, changes to seller responsibilities or anything else. Not good.!

The thing is though, PayPal instantly knows from the email address during the PayPal Commerce sign up process that a business account exists. It even states that and gives my business details. What is doesn't implicitly state though is what the 'partnership' with Cubecart (or other card vendor) is, what information is shared with that cart vendor and how that information is used. They are asking sellers to agree to something, without giving them details beforehand. I would politely suggest that is actually illegal. When I go onto PayPal Developer platform, they are now talking about cart vendors being on different tiers, silver, gold etc and that being tied into sales volumes. As many of those are open source and essentially free cart products, that raises concerns about where PayPal is actually accessing those significant figures from? We all have choices, but only offering one type of product solution, is akin to Henry Ford's 'any colour you want as long as it's black'. Take it or leave it. I do appreciate all the work that goes into developing open source solutions though and Cubecart is a fine product that deserves better recognition.

Well one 'barrier' to using Commerce I've found since playing with it, is the requirement to put your customer service telephone number in the link up process. Mine has always been set at zeros for a number of years, which has been fine with standard and express PayPal for years. I run online businesses, so purely use contact forms and email. PayPal has to realise whilst businesses are online 24/7, they are not necessarily manned 24/7, which is why none of my sites have contact numbers either. From a data protection point of view, I would also have concerns about what data PayPal would be sharing with its software partners. There has never been any tie into the cart providers before Commerce came out. There no transparency put out there by PayPal, which is a concern for a lot of people. The biggest shopping cart software on the web, now has plugins developed by community developers that restores the hidden PayPal Standard gateway back into that software, so there obviously a significant demand there.

PayPal's response to 'Std' being discontinued, was that "their PayPal Standard product is currently deployed on hundreds of thousands of sites worldwide, whose infrastructure means that PayPal Commerce could not be incorporated into those sites. Consequently there are no plans to discontinue the PayPal Standard product." I do understand where they coming from with that, as often come across sites with just three or four primary products. I have a full UK verified business PayPal account, so don't have restrictions with using commerce over std. I will have a look through the code myself to see if I can disable the mail function. Couldn't see anywhere in the admin section where I can close the entire email function off..

Hi. Have been trying the PayPal Commerce utility on a couple of other makes of cart, purely to test its functionality, as I truly still prefer the simplicity of PayPal Std. One thing I have found when using Cubecart with Commerce in sandbox mode, is that it sending out order confirmation and 'thank you for your payment' emails to what is a non existent sandbox purchase email account. Obviously none of these are getting delivered, so it gives the impression my sites are sending out junk mail. The other two carts I've been playing with don't sent out acknowledgement emails when in sandbox box. I am guessing that is down to the fact that with Cubecart a condition has to be manually edited on a php file then uploaded back to the server, so the admin currently has no way of knowing not to send out the emails? Just wondering if this mail sending can be temporarily turned off in one of the php files somewhere, while I test in sandbox mode, as can't keep sending out undeliverable emails to the same address. Ideally a 'switch' in Cubecart for sandbox/live tied to email repression is a better long term option. Thanks...