After purchase licencse, using CubeCart for my Clients; Permittable???

[Guest soumik]

Is cube cart can be used to create store for my clients?

I am going to purchase a license, and want to use it for two of my valuable clients, does that violates any rule?

Soumik

[jerseyjoe]

Your CubeCart License only covers one domain such as www.yourdomain.com. If you have further stores like www.subdomain.yourdomain.com or www.yourdomain.com/store1 then you will require further licenses for those.

I just did a quick read of the CC License Agreement and did not see any language regarding sub-domains. I did see language saying that a copyright removal license could only be used for a single domain - but even that implicitly includes sub-domains.

Of course I did just skim the doc. Can yopu help me know where such limits are stated?

Regards,

[jerseyjoe]

Please accept my apology upfront that we disagree on this point. I trust that we are on the same side, what is good for CC. Maybe the agreement needs to be revised but at the moment, and with sincere respect, it does not contain the limits you suggest.

The paragraph you quote is the exact language to which I also am referring also. It seems to be a matter of each of us getting a different meaning from the same language. I don't see that it imposes any limits on a sub-domain - because . . .

1) it refers to where and and how a *copyright removal key* may be applied. It says nothing about anything other than that license key and no other paragraph mentions any limit on sub-domains.

2) even then, and only as it applies to copyright removal key, the language used ("A single license key must be used for each domain and may not be used more than once. ") implicitly includes all sub-domains under that domain. I'm sure we agree that a sub-domain is not a separate doman. It is anything and everything within that domain, including a sub-domain - unless of course, the language of the license were to explicitly state that sub-domains are not permitted - which it does not.

That's the difference between implicit and explicit. Under the concept of implicit, what is not explicitly prohibited is allowed.

Then there is the practical issue. I have 5 stores, each of which has a copyright license removal key. But were I to want to buy a key for a sub-domain for any of them, I am not aware of any way of doing that. There's nothing in the purchasing GUI that refers to it.

Maybe this should be run past Brooky to ask what is his intention - and to ask if the license agreement needs editing.

Regards, Joe

[jerseyjoe]

I agree with you in that maybe there needs to be a wording review. I will bring this to Brooks attention

At the risk of belaboring the issue of what is a domain, as we all know, Tim Berners-Lee. the inventor of the Internet, is a Francophone. He chose "domain," the French word for "house," to describe the contents of a single web site. It is an inclusive word, referring to everything within that house.

To extend his metaphor, a sub-domain (sub being Latin for "beneath" or "part of") is a room or space within that house, just like a bathroom or bedroom. If I supply electricity, water, waste, broadband or phone service to a house, it implicitly is available to any place within that house.

I can see that there may be a need to prohibit CC being used to create a "mall." Aside from the question of how real an issue that might be, given the general failure of the mall concept, banning *all* sub-domains may not be the best way to do that. If a ban were specifically to prohibit the use of CC to create mall stores while allowing sub-domains to situations with certain commonality between the stores, that might work.

For example, it might be required that any sub-domains be for stores owned by one merchant. It could be required that all sub-domains use a common database. There are other ways of surpressing mall applications but not prohibiting sub-domains.

Anyway, recognizing that between trips to the beer barrel, Brooky is working furiously to bring out 3.1, I don't see this as a high priority issue. But if he wants to appoint a committee to prepare a new license agreement for 3.1, I'd be willing to work with others in a private forum.

Thanks again for your input.

Joe

[Guest EverythingWeb]

Hello,

Just a closing point on this thread, as I think what the original poster was asking was if there was a problem him buying the license on behalf of his/her clients - soumik, this is not a problem and there are lots of companies, ourselves included who do this.

With regards to the license agreement, I have in the next line copied the line in the license agreement from which this discussion has arised, and hopefully clear up any misunderstandings that anyone reading this may have.

A single license key must be used for each domain and may not be used more than once.

The important bit here is that the license key can only be used once, on one domain, be that a root domain or sub-domain. It can only be used on one CubeCart installation. Period.

Once a license key is entered through the AdminCP of a CubeCart installation, that license key is then applied to that domain that the installation is running from. If you should want to reuse the license key then a reset request must be submitted to Devellion who will review each & every case for a license reset and either grant or reject based on the reason given.

I hope this clears it up. I shall close this thread as I dont think there is anything else left to say. If anyone has any questions, please feel free to PM me.

Many Thanks.

Edit: I have reopened this thread as having discussed this with other moderators, it may seem that a useful discussion could entail. Please lets have good constructive discussion if it needs it.

[Guest vrakas]

@EverythingWeb

I would like to thank you for clearing this up in simple to understand words */*

[Guest soumik]

@EverythingWeb

Thanks.

That clear some of my queries.

Soumik

[Al Brookbanks]

Hello folks. Thanks for bringing this up for my attention and to those who have set other straight.

I think the best answer for this is to get my Lawer to write a new software license agreement that is worded in a better way that I am able to. Infact he drafted all the important site documents including T&C's & Privacy statement which are completely bespoke.

At the end of the day, one cubecart license can be used for one cubecart shop.

e.g.

http://www.example.com/shop (Requires 1 license)

http://www.example.com/ (Requires 1 license)

http://shop.example.com/ (Requires 1 license)

http://www.example.com/shop2 (Requires 1 license)

But these only need one license key if you point the slave domains to the master one and there is only one shop running.

http://www.example.com/shop (Master domain 1 license)

http://www.example.co.uk/shop (Slave domain uses master domain license)

http://www.example.net/shop (Slave domain uses master domain license)

http://www.example.org/shop (Slave domain uses master domain license)

http://www.example.com/masterstore/ (Requires 1 license)

http://www.example.com/masterstore/substore (Requires 2 licenses)

http://www.example.com/masterstore/substore2 (Requires 3 licenses)

In other words customisation for a Mall requires a license per store. I will get this cleared up in the next software license agreement.