LIBERTY Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 I'm guessing it not just me, but are other people experiencing problems accessing the CubeCart forums? I get a Cloudfire window that just shows a circling box, that just keeps circling and the forum access just never happens. Only way I have found to resolve this, is to go into my browser and delete the specific cookies for the CubeCart site to be able to access the forums, which is a bit of a pain. Am running Windows 10 and this happens with both Microsoft Edge and Google Chrome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Brookbanks Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 Yes it's a pest. We are getting absolutely hammered with spam making the forums almost unusable if we turn attack mode off. If anyone has any suggestions please let me know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIBERTY Posted October 11, 2023 Author Share Posted October 11, 2023 I would probably look at some sort of graphics captcha on a landing page, for anyone to be able to access the forums. If they pass, then take them to the main forum page. Problem at the moment, is if people cannot access the forums then they will probably just seek out another cart solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Brookbanks Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 Thats exactly what this is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIBERTY Posted October 11, 2023 Author Share Posted October 11, 2023 Trouble is, there something not quite right with it, if it not allowing legitimate users to get through. Fifteen minutes later the Cloudflare circle was still spinning with no update, even browser refresh did nothing. Not familiar with Cloudflare operation, but would have expected an access or deny within 30 seconds. It has only ever once asked me to validate I'm human, but doesn't seem to store that info? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Brookbanks Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 True. I've opened a support request with CloudFlare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsmither Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 A 'throbber' (spinning circle) that does not go away indicates that the javascript that is supposed to cancel the throbber and make the browser proceed to the next step, has crashed, failed to start, or failed to load. Failing to load could be caused by a browser extension that prohibits fetching javascript from non-whitelisted sources. While stuck on the CloudFlare page, examine the browser settings menu for a "Developer" section, then view the browser 'console'. It will indicate the cause of being stuck on the CloudFlare page. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Brookbanks Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 Yes it's probably a browser extension like AdBlock. https://community.cloudflare.com/t/im-stuck-on-checking-a-site-that-has-cloudflare-and-its-not-mine/538699 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIBERTY Posted October 11, 2023 Author Share Posted October 11, 2023 Definitely no extensions or ad blockers on either of my main browsers. They bog standard as downloaded. Annoyingly enough, Cloudflare not even kicking in at the moment and it allowing me to just go straight into the forums, even when the browser has been closed down. I will have a look at the developer console in the browser when it does it again though and see what it shows... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Brookbanks Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 Hmmm. Ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsmither Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 Personal observations, using Win7, Waterfox Classic + NoScript: There seems to be timeouts - likely "cookie expires" timestamps. If requesting another forum page within so many (just a few) minutes, the forum appears straight-away. After (I'm guessing 15 minutes) of no access, CloudFlare will interdict. (This will cause problems with certain forum functions - especially any AJAX-powered features. For example, after a long delay, one begins writing a response in the Quick Reply box. The editor's toolbar will be missing. Using a second browser tab, requesting a forum page will get fresh cookies.) Then, maybe after a few days(?, with maybe not detecting mouse cursor movements), the "I'm Human" checkbox will be played. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Brookbanks Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 Maybe we should turn it off. This forum software is poor at deterring spam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debyink Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 I'll add to Liberty, I had it lots of time last week where I just couldn't get on, was trying to find out a resolution to setting up taxes for EU but just couldn't get on the forum. I too have no ad-blockers etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Brookbanks Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 Annoying. Sorry about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIBERTY Posted October 11, 2023 Author Share Posted October 11, 2023 Not as silly as it sounds, but I wonder what anti spam software the other forums out there are using? There are a lot of captcha devices out there, some much better than others at reducing the crud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIBERTY Posted October 12, 2023 Author Share Posted October 12, 2023 Okay - was unable to get onto the forums again this morning. Cloudfare was just giving the continuous turning circle. Once again, I could only get access my deleting CubeCart cookies, This was the code I managed to capture from the developer console in the browser. Hope it helps analyse the problem. Error with Permissions-Policy header: Origin trial controlled feature not enabled: 'browsing-topics'. Error with Permissions-Policy header: Origin trial controlled feature not enabled: 'interest-cohort'. GET https://forums.cubecart.com/ 403 (Forbidden) (anonymous) @ /cdn-cgi/challenge-p…=814d7bad7a9f63ec:1 index.php?app=core&module=system&controller=serviceworker&v=3bfd6ef0f41694618274&type=front&loggedIn=false:279 SyntaxError: Unexpected token '<', "<!DOCTYPE "... is not valid JSON index.php?app=core&module=system&controller=serviceworker&v=3bfd6ef0f41694618274&type=front&loggedIn=false:288 SyntaxError: Unexpected token '<', "<!DOCTYPE "... is not valid JSON 5The FetchEvent for "<URL>" resulted in a network error response: an object that was not a Response was passed to respondWith(). v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 POST https://forums.cubecart.com/cdn-cgi/challenge-platform/h/g/flow/ov1/647593815:1697091661:jV91jQBnpq3J5WSJS8qkEdosc3NTYe6SVjDnZtoF9vU/814d7c97496d63ec/317181c974e7b48 net::ERR_FAILED fy.<computed> @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 setTimeout (async) aMGKb @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 (anonymous) @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 gk @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 gh @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 (anonymous) @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 sCcqa @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 (anonymous) @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 setTimeout (async) nfTXz @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 e @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 gm @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 (anonymous) @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 (anonymous) @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 index.php?app=core&module=system&controller=serviceworker&v=3bfd6ef0f41694618274&type=front&loggedIn=false:279 SyntaxError: Unexpected token '<', "<!DOCTYPE "... is not valid JSON index.php?app=core&module=system&controller=serviceworker&v=3bfd6ef0f41694618274&type=front&loggedIn=false:288 SyntaxError: Unexpected token '<', "<!DOCTYPE "... is not valid JSON v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 POST https://forums.cubecart.com/cdn-cgi/challenge-platform/h/g/flow/ov1/647593815:1697091661:jV91jQBnpq3J5WSJS8qkEdosc3NTYe6SVjDnZtoF9vU/814d7c97496d63ec/317181c974e7b48 net::ERR_FAILED fy.<computed> @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 (anonymous) @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 setTimeout (async) h @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 i.<computed> @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 XMLHttpRequest.send (async) fy.<computed> @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 setTimeout (async) aMGKb @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 (anonymous) @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 gk @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 gh @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 (anonymous) @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 sCcqa @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 (anonymous) @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 setTimeout (async) nfTXz @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 e @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 gm @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 (anonymous) @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 (anonymous) @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 index.php?app=core&module=system&controller=serviceworker&v=3bfd6ef0f41694618274&type=front&loggedIn=false:279 SyntaxError: Unexpected token '<', "<!DOCTYPE "... is not valid JSON index.php?app=core&module=system&controller=serviceworker&v=3bfd6ef0f41694618274&type=front&loggedIn=false:288 SyntaxError: Unexpected token '<', "<!DOCTYPE "... is not valid JSON v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 POST https://forums.cubecart.com/cdn-cgi/challenge-platform/h/g/flow/ov1/647593815:1697091661:jV91jQBnpq3J5WSJS8qkEdosc3NTYe6SVjDnZtoF9vU/814d7c97496d63ec/317181c974e7b48 net::ERR_FAILED fy.<computed> @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 (anonymous) @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 setTimeout (async) h @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 i.<computed> @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 XMLHttpRequest.send (async) fy.<computed> @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 (anonymous) @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 setTimeout (async) h @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 i.<computed> @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 XMLHttpRequest.send (async) fy.<computed> @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 setTimeout (async) aMGKb @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 (anonymous) @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 gk @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 gh @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 (anonymous) @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 sCcqa @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 (anonymous) @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 setTimeout (async) nfTXz @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 e @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 gm @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 (anonymous) @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 (anonymous) @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 index.php?app=core&module=system&controller=serviceworker&v=3bfd6ef0f41694618274&type=front&loggedIn=false:279 SyntaxError: Unexpected token '<', "<!DOCTYPE "... is not valid JSON index.php?app=core&module=system&controller=serviceworker&v=3bfd6ef0f41694618274&type=front&loggedIn=false:288 SyntaxError: Unexpected token '<', "<!DOCTYPE "... is not valid JSON v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 POST https://forums.cubecart.com/cdn-cgi/challenge-platform/h/g/flow/ov1/647593815:1697091661:jV91jQBnpq3J5WSJS8qkEdosc3NTYe6SVjDnZtoF9vU/814d7c97496d63ec/317181c974e7b48 net::ERR_FAILED fy.<computed> @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 (anonymous) @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 setTimeout (async) h @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 i.<computed> @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 XMLHttpRequest.send (async) fy.<computed> @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 (anonymous) @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 setTimeout (async) h @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 i.<computed> @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 XMLHttpRequest.send (async) fy.<computed> @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 (anonymous) @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 setTimeout (async) h @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 i.<computed> @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 XMLHttpRequest.send (async) fy.<computed> @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 setTimeout (async) aMGKb @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 (anonymous) @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 gk @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 gh @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 (anonymous) @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 sCcqa @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 (anonymous) @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 setTimeout (async) nfTXz @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 e @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 gm @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 (anonymous) @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 (anonymous) @ v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 index.php?app=core&module=system&controller=serviceworker&v=3bfd6ef0f41694618274&type=front&loggedIn=false:279 SyntaxError: Unexpected token '<', "<!DOCTYPE "... is not valid JSON index.php?app=core&module=system&controller=serviceworker&v=3bfd6ef0f41694618274&type=front&loggedIn=false:288 SyntaxError: Unexpected token '<', "<!DOCTYPE "... is not valid JSON v1?ray=814d7c97496d63ec:1 POST https://forums.cubecart.com/cdn-cgi/challenge-platform/h/g/flow/ov1/647593815:1697091661:jV91jQBnpq3J5WSJS8qkEdosc3NTYe6SVjDnZtoF9vU/814d7c97496d63ec/317181c974e7b48 net::ERR_FAILED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Brookbanks Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 I've turned it off. Lets see howe we get on.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIBERTY Posted October 12, 2023 Author Share Posted October 12, 2023 I don't know whether you can hack into the code on the forum software, but assuming they can only paste spam if logged in, I'd be inclined to automatically log someone out after two hours and have a non automatic captcha for both new registrations and for folks wanting to log back in. As it a forum and not a sales venue, having a manual captcha shouldn't deter people that want to use the forums for legitimate purposes. Nothing is ideal for sure, but only a numpty would respond to a spam advert, so them spamming forums, blogs and groups is a pointless exercise anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Brookbanks Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 I don't really want to get involved in that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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